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This piece features two voices: sociologist Dr. Laura T. Hamilton (UC Merced) and philosopher Dr. Kathryn Joyce (Princeton University).
Educational Policy Studies PhD student Abby Beneke (UW-Madison) interviewed Laura when she came to UW in 2019 to give a talk on her book project, Broke: The Racial Consequences of Underfunding Universities, which she co-wrote with Kelly Nielsen.
Dr. Hamilton:
“What I want people to understand is that the hierarchies that we see today are about racial resentment.”
We asked philosopher Kathryn Joyce to respond to Laura’s interview from a lens of relational equality.
Dr. Joyce:
“Addressing racial hierarchies is not primarily a matter of rooting out racists and removing them from positions of power. It’s a matter of eliminating dominant racial ideologies.”
Study guide for this episode coming soon!
This episode was produced by Abby Beneke and Carrie Welsh, and mixed and edited by Kellen Sharp.
Recommended Readings:

Broke: The Racial Consequences of Underfunding Universities by Laura T. Hamilton and Kelly Nielsen.

Broke book cover